Zeitgeist II - Addendum (Google Rip)

This is a Google Rip of the new Zeitgeist II - Addendum movie. This is just a temporary release to tide the community over until the folks atget their shit together and release the free downloadable version on bittorrent. Enjoy!

udp://tracker.openbittorrent.com:80
udp://open.demonii.com:1337
udp://tracker.coppersurfer.tk:6969
udp://exodus.desync.com:6969

Qym (2008-10-04)

wait for the official movie torrent. its gona be online soon.

rapzeh (2008-10-04)

I agree whit Qym, and I already saw this lower quality version online.
but thanks anyway.

vampiricon (2008-10-04)

I'm fine with this release- i just watched the movie in a smaller player window.

mcbridea88 (2008-10-04)

fuck the monetary system!!

matrix2022 (2008-10-05)

I guess it "technically" isn't a google rip. All I did was go to the video on the site, and then I just clicked download for iPod/PSP. It downloaded the film as an .mp4 file, and then I just renamed it so it would be relevant. The reason I posted it as a torrent is because most people tend to look here first. Can't wait until they post the official high res version!

spanish_for_shark (2008-10-05)

@ Hack,
No. The NWO would be a society based on the continued exploitation of a non-elite working class, with the ultimate goal being the creation of a biologically stratified hierarchical class system.
That fact remains that the illusion of scarcity and the control of finite, ecologically devastating resources keeps the human race in chains. What Joseph and Fresco are advocating is a REVOLUTION IN CONSCIOUSNESS, the result of which will be an empowered human society.
Parallels with Marxist/Leninist philosophy are irrelevant.

floodo1 (2008-10-05)

No, what the VENUS project is talking about is using technology to address scarcity, thus freeing humanity from the doldrums of an exploitive monetary system.
we already have a world order, which is capitalism, or other forms of monetary systems. the Venus project aims to REPLACE (not so much create something that never was) this system with one in which the primary objective is to elimiante scarcity and thus competition.
Their key point is that human behaviour is driven by the environement, which now is an environment of competition. So if we can change the environment through technology we can setup a situaiton in which people wont be so bad :)

Milkywaycenter (2008-10-06)

Thanks matrix2022 for spreading the word.

Laser Freck (2008-10-07)

You don't get it hack, do you? The society Lenin proposed is not like the Venus project. Lenin's society wasn't proclaiming technology as the main source of prosperity. He was going in the right direction though, but his effort was overttaken by power-hungerers who would forever soil the name of Socialism and Communism, in that extent that people today don't want to hear about it as the only thing that pops up in their mind is facsim and dictatorship, which in my opinion is really the counterpart of the ideologies. Although they were misunderstood, they weren't perfect either, but as said in Zeitgeist Addendum, no ideology is.
But my, Venus project is as close as it gets. I really see the problems concerning the monetary system now.
To call this film some kind of a propaganda video is stupid, as it raises the subjects of critical thinking and better understanding on how the world really works.

Laser Freck (2008-10-08)

>COMMUNISM *NEVER* SUCCEEDED, BECAUSE IT *ALWAYS* EVOKES POWER-HUNGERS. *THINK* WHY.
I know why. Because the revolutions:
a) Occured in poor, uneducated countries, allowing power-hungerers take over with ease, while lying to the stupid and naive population.
b) Occured back when there actually wasn't enough technology for this to happen.
c) Maybe from the start were created by someone hungry for power, which this isn't.
This isn't a hunger for power. This isn't naive. It's exactly what our soicety needs to not crash on itself.

Laser Freck (2008-10-08)

Is the comic a way to show how serious you are about this?
1.) Oh but it does. People back(and particulary, in those countries) then didn't know if they were fooled or not, because they didn't have access to the internet, to the TV, to mobile phones, and on and on. People will not allow a dictator arise, people believe in democratic systems (except the high-ups themselves, ofc). Our means of communication today gives us a much, much higher awareness.
2.) I didn't say it was enough to never research more, I say it is enough for the system to work. Internet, Mag-lev trains, unlimited energy resources, we have the technology for it to be possible.
The will for new exploration and science should be the main objective, I didn't disregard it. That's even what they said in the video, that we should work together to push our society to as close as perfect as it can get, which as you point out, the human-mind is made for. Improvement. New achievements.

Claus- (2008-10-08)

Hackfleisch32 PROJECT ANALYSED:
-attentionwhore or/and a troll.
*Links to some some Stalin cartoons*
...
REAL GOAL OF THIS USER:
-steal millions of libertarian minds, mostly young idealistic Ron Paul supporters and Zeitgeist watchers and turn them against each other in some really bizarre way that no-one-gets-but-he-still-tries-to-do-it in his own little world that

Johnnystarship (2008-10-09)

The Most important movie you will ever see!

Claus- (2008-10-09)

Solutions for the II) group of needs, that are almost completely aside technology:
Spiritual development, you can't have an efficient system ("utopia") with a bunch of fearful paboons or with outdated religious institutions that spawn them.
Please watch the film and then whine about it.

fluidpoint (2008-10-09)

Hackfleisch32, DO YOU WORK FOR BANK OF AMERICA?

nightsongz2 (2008-10-09)

Another one to check out-

fluidpoint (2008-10-09)

Hackfleisch32, the fact that you use the examples of the failed communist dictatorships as comparisons to TRUE communism shows your true intelligence. I suppose you consider China an example of true communism?
Stick to psychology your anti-change rhetoric is just a bunch of long wind.

lnzftw (2008-10-10)

>A) VENUS / COMMUNISMUS:

>B) LIBERTARIAN:

Do some people really fall for your sorry attempts of populism?

tan0 (2008-10-12)

say the venus project gets implemented tomorrow, its pretty logical to think that the "elite" in this new sistem will be comprised of people with a higher intellect than the average for the society to work and also any human being who would excced could be part of this "elite" as to make progress happen the society would be on the look out of fresh and inovative minds, mainly because of conditioning, and yeah it wouldnt be a utopian society at first since our generations would have a hard time adjusting because of our "animal-urges" we learned to live with *sexual and otherwise...the point about this system being similar than the monetary system as it will inevitably make an elite class is well made, but it wouldnt be the same type of elite as we have, it would actually be an elite of people who actually have the preparation and knowledge to contribute to the society and actually be respected for their achievements in the many fields this new society will be exploring unlike scientists of our age oftin ignored, cast aside or simply exploited for mere profit i.e. tesla
sadly tho this may stay as a nice idea and we may never see it come to be in our lifetime...