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Zeitgeist Moving Forward (2011) DVDRip XviD-P2P
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A feature length documentary work which presents a case for a needed transition out of the current socioeconomic
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FigonaPetter (2011-02-01)
Many thanks. Will be interestin.flamesong (2011-02-02)
I don't want to prejudge this film but it seems that we have a choice between plutarchy and this perverse pseudo environmental technocracy. Either way, we are fucked.JesusEatsBabies (2011-02-02)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781069/tulsafag (2011-02-02)
Not as " in your face " as the other 2 films, however Pete has shown some personality with a " F-Bomb" Strategically placed.hiimbryce (2011-02-02)
glad to see this is on the top 100. best one yet. the movement is making awesome progress!pimpmobile (2011-02-02)
stop the evil that controlls america! ZEITGEIST FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The revolution is at hand, stop those who would harm with an Iron fist!yazz00 (2011-02-02)
Good movie, way better than the other 2, the message is more plain here. The economy kinda sucks though, the invited 'experts' don't really understand what they're talking about. A TRULY freemarket economy like Friedman or Hayek envisioned would still work great for 30+ years. What we have now in America or anywhere in the world really is not freemarket at all. Example - the African countries are so poor because of subsidized agriculture in developed countries.clulow (2011-02-02)
Your just wasting your time America as it's far to late for this.Should have been doing this 20 years ago when the corporations started taking over your country.They own your politicians on both sides and your military does what the politicians say.Complain all you like but nothing will change.klhelst (2011-02-02)
avm?Speedgrapher (2011-02-03)
The video bitrate is somewhat high for the given resolution, hence the large filesize and occasional stuttering on my (modest) PC, but a good rip nevertheless.Oh, and if you are reading this, watch the movie and make *EVERYONE* you know see it too! :P
NewWorldOrphan9 (2011-02-03)
Finally, its released! The first two Zeitgeist documentaries were amazing! Thanks extremezone! TRUTH IS RISING!bragazar1710 (2011-02-03)
thanks.Dinononi (2011-02-04)
If Everybody Keeps Seeding The Movement Will Increase.So Don't Delete It From Your Down-/Uploading List!!
chromep2 (2011-02-04)
one way or the other people either by knowledge or economic failure will have to accept the way of resource sharing and soon people will realise in a finite world , one cant be selffish ... or greedy...but when will that revolution happen ?
Men in power will do anything and go to all distant to prevail the state of " we are all fine with this system" concept...
ozkris (2011-02-04)
Just seeding doesn't make the "movement" increase. That would be presuming that everyone in the world downloads torrents. This just isn't true. Us downloaders are a very small fraction of the people out there who have the capacity to download. The vast majority of internet users just don't do it.The Zeitgeist films, while interesting, are really just alarmist propaganda inspired by fear. The genius of these films is that they make people believe that they know what they are talking about, when they really don't. The best part of all of these "documentaries" was the first section of the first film where they debunked religious myth.
Interesting does not mean true. Just because somebody took the time to put it together doesn't make it accurate. Do you believe everything you read in the newspaper? Do your own research, don't just take everything the Zeitgeist films at face value. They are reactionary snobs who use the same techniques as the mainstream media to keep you fearful of the world around you. The only difference is that the media does it for profit and these guys do it to be cool.
gianni4u (2011-02-04)
It's badly ripped, crashes the player before it even starts and in dvd-divx player says it's hd version. I reckon u need hd software/hardware to play this file. Ridiculous huge file size for a dvdrip (if it's a dvdrip) anyway. Wait for a proper dvdrip.treyporfavor (2011-02-04)
it makes me feel cool to give out advice in a comment section that no one hardly readspimpmobile (2011-02-04)
ozkris You are a fascist moron! Take your own advice and research the film you'll find it's accurate you ass kissing snob !clevlandbrown (2011-02-04)
What a load of crap. These guys take so many liberties with the truth. If your not a doctor or economist you may believe them and start believing what they are advocating. This is nothing more than a cult. Don't go to Ghana with them and don't drink the kool aid.blueleaf (2011-02-04)
truth, revolution, sharing, respect...bla bla bla....u guys cant wait to fight here in the comments section......first settle ur disputes among urself, then talk bout changing the WORLD..lol
sillysausages (2011-02-04)
Doesn't work on my media player! (cyclone micro) work on p.c (wmp classic/vlc)Also, why nearly 3gb?????
Brazzaman (2011-02-04)
I'm thrilled to see this. The other two got me so stunned that I'm still seeding since then. 'Zeitgast & Z. Addendum', and 'Zeitgeist 4 - where are we now' were uploaded so far 18 and 15 times over so far, and this will continue. Usually I remove them when the UL/DL rate reaches 1,5, but with these documentaries... well, the story is different. And it's never late when people decides to react. See egypt?yyzguy (2011-02-04)
@ozkris - Tobacco is a known carcinogen yet they won't ban it. I guess that's just alarmist propaganda also. Open your mind u might learn something.Bit-Step (2011-02-05)
i appriciate the non biest side of ozkrisbut fuckkkk open your eyes .
Zeitgeist is the doc that shows the corruption in this world and how it had affected us!
i shall now prcocede to get high and be enlightened by the 3rd zeitgeist
U should 2, i am def seeding this 4 a while....
westy10 (2011-02-05)
Ozkris,I am guessing you are a religious man,I am not knocking that,I believe in a higher power but not the god that has been perceived to all christians. If there was no such thing in the world as religion then possibly there would not be so much anger,hatred and pain amongst us all....Anyway,DL just now and looking forward to watching it.
Peace & love to all.
nuf0 (2011-02-05)
Better then the last two. Systems like any other are just a set of rules for guidance. The most important message in this movie is that human values have been so misplaced by the current system. The rich still getting richer and the poor more poorer. Populations increasing and supplies decreasing it's one bad suicidal snowball. Change motherfuckers!Phatfish (2011-02-05)
A/V - Obviously great rip (It's 2,97gb becouse it's 2 hours and 41 minutes long)M - Even tough it's a bit unnecessarily corny I do agree with just about everything except one thing: That there is hope.
No task is impossible as long as you have the minimum amount of intelligence required to proceed, but that's where mankind fails. You can never learn a dog to solve algebra even if his life depended on it. Not in this universe anyway.
garbagebag (2011-02-06)
I hope this doesn't conclude with the brainwashed 'perfect future' conclusion, like the other Zeitgeists did. You know, that 'perfect future' picture which I found so similar to the picture of a 'perfect future's' that the Commies / Nazis and their like promised us before they ended up killing millions in the name of their 'perfect future' vision. So it better not be another fake new ideology / belief system for those that need one to replace their old fake ideology / belief system!tapper101 (2011-02-06)
You would want to download this version instead of watching it on YouTube if you would like to have subtitles that are not Italian. Because there is only one version on youtube, and it has Italian subtitles.hayesy316 (2011-02-06)
"Strike that...it does use your bandwidth viewing from Youtube apparently"This is an example of the kind of powerful intellect that finds this stuff profound. Consider yourself forewarned.
BMF916 (2011-02-06)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1781069/nanimo (2011-02-07)
I feel sorry for people who believe this shitty propaganda.psili (2011-02-07)
Anybody who wants to argue about the zeitgeist movement itself or the series of documentaries should do so elsewhere (perhaps on the zeitgeist movement forum).It never ceases to amaze me how many posts I need to wade through to find out if a torrent is worth downloading or not.
For the record I wouldn't download a 2hr41m dvd rip that is 2.97GB...
orinvee (2011-02-07)
"Imagine a world where violent crime is rare. Only the occasional crime of passion, etc. occur. And when crime does occur, it is investigated thoroughly using not the justice system or police, but rather by scientists using Scientific Method so the events leading up to the crime can be understood fully, and adjustments made to prevent whatever social or environmental circumstances led to the crime whenever possible."ct420: zeitgeist (the movies) will never solve the problems of crime and corruption in our world systems as long as they attack the ONLY solution that exists: the God of the Christian bible! You will scoff and use the same old tired rhetoric that has spewed from the mouth of immoral and self-centered men for what seems like forever:"Look at all the wars fought in the name of religion!"
Well, news flash! Wars are fought by MEN, religious or otherwise. God's not building WMD's (weapons of mass destruction). He's not committing genocide. He's not lying, cheating, stealing, oppressing, raping or killing men...men are doing that to their own kind. It doesn't matter that they blame God or name God as the one who tells them to do these things because He doesn't. "Repay evil with good" is a commandment from God that few men want to hear and even fewer obey. God commands love for your fellow man...a commodity sadly lacking in today's world.
You want to see all the madness end? Let everyone begin to serve the Lord in all righteousness and a Utopian society will begin.
What the world needs is MORE morality, not less.
Christianity is not working because the counterfeit religion called 'Christianity' which so many practice is not Christ-like at all...it is a church of Satan and serves the god of this world.
God knows that man's heart is eternally wicked and he will never make the world a better place as long as he is allowed his 'free will'.
God will return in MIGHT, ruling with an IRON FIST and SHOW mankind the proper way to live. Until then, enjoy your human rulers and their not-so-enduring peace that they will continuously promise.
P.S. Science in the hands of man is a destructive, explosive debilitating force that will never benefit mankind.
CockForYourMom (2011-02-08)
@ orinveeP.S. your a faggot.
kneebutt (2011-02-08)
Fucking hell folks. Zeitgeist is just a person's opinion carefully assembled into a documentary. Much of it is valid, much of it is nothing more than opinion. Anyone who thinks any of the Zeitgeist docos can stand up to a thorough fact-checking has their head up their arse. Sorry, but there it is. You probably think Peter Jackson is carrying the torch of truth too you dosile fucker. Having said that, I have seen all the Zeitgeists cos they're so damned interesting and they definately encourage the viewer to consider the world in a different way. It's good to keep an open mind, but if you think watching this doco and buying everything it says is being open-minded then frankly you're a moron. You may aswell be a christian if you're that easily lead.asdfgeek (2011-02-08)
@orinvee i didnt had a piratebay account, and i registered to tell you that you are a real "faggot".Someone here is thinking seriously about the problems on earth and you are just acting like a fucking asshole and waiting for some1 to save your ass.
Its time to leave your old fucking mentality and think beyond god.
asdfgeek (2011-02-08)
@kneebutt watch all of the movies then talk. you fucking lazy ass.evrasno1 (2011-02-09)
@orinveeyou sound like most overtly religious people,insecure,self-important and full of shit.
How many kids have you indoctrinated,btw?
"God knows that man's heart is eternally wicked "
speak for yourself,you sick fucker
HoslerG (2011-02-09)
extremely retarded, great upload thoughpimpmobile (2011-02-09)
stop the evil that controlls america! ZEITGEIST FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The revolution is at hand, stop those who would harm with an Iron fist!GetBusyLiving (2011-02-09)
I disagreed with a few things from the first movie, but this one.. man, this actually makes sense. This is really the only blueprint for continued human survival. I hope people have the collective wisdom to actually make this happen before we run out of time.Realistically though I think things are going to get a hell of a lot worse before they get better.
ManLemon (2011-02-11)
lol @ orinveeTime (or should I say Zeit) will tell if you're right. Though spewing your opinions and ideas about the world as truth is kind of pointless and not much more than being argumentative without an argument. It's a believe system, your religion, not a system based on facts. Not that I'm saying that facts are everything but forcing off your faith onto others have never worked (i.e. the crusades) and yet you're doing exactly that. Even though your intentions are probably good, you're actualy the kind of person that makes people walk away from religion. Check the statistics, more and more people are abandoning the religion they were brought up with... and with good reason I'd say, lack of valid evidence and reason may have been good at some point in our society, but right now people need more than just stories...
Pardon the wall of text, thanks for the upload extremezone :)
werthers (2011-02-11)
Having seen the first two and their quote mining, lack of knowledge of the banking system, lack of proper sources, lack of scientific knowledge, paranoia and views based on the same old anti UN/jews/etc I think I'll avoid this. When you examine the last to with a critical eye they're full of holes.conswella (2011-02-11)
Since i strongly believe in this movie and its portrayal of obvious and glaringly ancient, medieval, primordial, barbarian, backwards problems of the world, I want to say that i am seeding at 100+ kB/s and will continue for as long as i can stand to. I pledge allegiance to the Earth, and everyone on it. :phow is something free worth more than every payed film? funny, isn't it?
whartanto (2011-02-12)
I always wonder whether economy as we know it is nothing more than global ponzi scheme...It is one of the most thoughtful and well presented movie of the year.
Unfortunately I am skeptical whether "Global strategic resource management" is possible. It has been tried before, we called it Communism.
whartanto (2011-02-12)
I always wonder whether economy as we know it is nothing more than global ponzi scheme...It is one of the most thoughtful and well presented movie of the year.
Unfortunately I am skeptical whether "Global strategic resource management" is possible. It has been tried before, we called it Communism.
asdfgeek (2011-02-12)
@orinvee If your GOD comes, he will fuck you first.MatthiasForVendetta (2011-02-13)
Never believe anything which comes out of someone's mouth, unless it rings true with your personal views. There isn't a supreme truth to the world, not one that can be found by man.That being said, Zeitgeist is a very amusing take on things and i watched the first one without having too many complaints and errors with it, though I had no epiphany or golden moment so it was pretty much a good watch.
Phatfish (2011-02-13)
@whartanto:There has never existed any real communism anywhere ever in the world. Maybe one could argue that Cuba is quasi-communistic. That's debatable.
The communism you are referring to are fascist dictatorships that have exploited Marxism as an excuse for power and personal gain.
Hitler claimed to be a socialist as well, but that doesn't mean he was.
As usual, anything that is not raging capitalism must be communism. I really dont see why any of these systems have to exist.
Heretikos (2011-02-14)
What a phoney movement. Yeah, describe real problems and issues... But then give an answer of socialism and communism where everyone is forced to serve the state. Freedom: FAILiamhelix (2011-02-14)
WTF 3Gb?why, its zeitgeist, why would i want such a big rip, whoever ripped this was ripped! lol
hoebywan (2011-02-15)
Thanks for the truth so well presented this time Zeitgeist. A great movie for those with the ability to reason. In my opinion however the human race is beyond saving and for the most part we deserve the fate that will befall us.See ya Earth, good luck after we are gone and sorry for all the shit!
seafloor (2011-02-15)
There will be no serious movement in the western industrialized countries, that threatens the administrative systems. The us will be busy to solve the pest prob for a couple of years which will scare the population to death as the alkaida threat did. And then when the negative consequences of capitalism damaged the social system unbearable, when huge parts of the population have to suffer from hunger, there will be the next war. That's the way things work out since the takeover of the monetary interest system 260 years ago.Devilishredbeardishness (2011-02-15)
The biggest threat to Western globalization is Islamic Shariah, The western countries state this themselves.sam_smooth (2011-02-15)
GO SIGN UP At the WEBSITE!!sam_smooth (2011-02-15)
GO Sign UP! Spread the Word....Lugubrizione (2011-02-18)
whatever we do, violence is not the solution.Weapons and terror is something the current regime has full control over; they are just aching to pull the trigger. Don't give them the excuse.
Soldiers are people too: If we sit down quietly and tell them to join us, it will be much harder to respond with violence.
pimpmobile (2011-02-18)
Lugubrizione is right we cannot expect people to take us seriously if act out of violence, we can not act like the wealthy( sick individuals ) who would kill at the drop of a hat! We must bring reason to this chaos that has been created. If everyone pulls together information and spreads it no one can be ignorant to whats going on. Think of a better tomorrow, think for tomorrow.bluecar5556 (2011-02-19)
There is a book named, "Behold a Pale Horse" by William Cooper which can be found here at thepiratebay /torrent/4051182 This man had insider knowledge at the very top of U.S. intelligence then the third and final assassination attempt was successful just as he predicts immediately after publishing this book.ronaldoo1 (2011-02-19)
Just look at Apple. Throw away tech is the new God of computing. Every year, release the next "Version" of your Macbook, ipod, iphone, ipad, *beep* and people buy them every year. Do you USE your V1.0 or V2.0's any more? Nope. Out with the old and in with the new, but this *beep* is insane. There ARE alternatives to tech building, but what makes more money? Selling the updates, or selling the whole damn enchilada all over again with a new paint job? The money is in making throw away tech, but it's insanely wasteful. I for one am totally on board with making our tech last.TheMightyMic (2011-02-19)
This is my first post in 5 years: @ asdfgeekYour comments reflect the intellect of an 8 year old.
3count0 (2011-02-20)
D/L now, but im gonna stick my 2c in anyway. I see a couple people in comments talking about getting rid of money as somehow beneficial. this is fundamentally flawed. without money, there can be no job specialization. a thought experiment - take the most basic item readily at hand. say a pencil. think of all the processes required to turn that from raw materials to finished product. wood, graphite, aluminum, and whatever the fuck it is that makes erasers has to be collected, worked and combined. I figure an absolute minimum of 6 people in 3 locations, plus transport, who all have a reasonable belief that their time and knowledge is worth something. no other economic system is feasible. do you want to try and create some ridiculous system of barters? some commune type system? there is a reason communities -actually- following communism are small subsistence level farmers. nothing else is workable within that system. If this show even hints at something along those lines ill be extremely disappointed, and would have to assume all their "research" was done by tracing letters in swirls of bong smoke.burakao (2011-02-20)
3count0 --> my friend, its obvious that u havent read or watching anything about this venus project. It tells you that every process of making a pencil or tetc will be robotical from technology. this means the work of hand force will be lifted off the people leaving them do be productive on other areas such as researcching exploring, being techie for machines and robots that produce your food and power.... this concept is more than it looks and requires full dedication from every person on this planet. because of that i don't this will ever happens unless some big c catastrophical event happens....... im srry people, but were so worse than were we think we are.......3count0 (2011-02-20)
so who will be the Morlocks?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock
Ziyonex (2011-02-21)
@orinveeYou are the reason I have lost hope in all of humanity. I sincerely hope people in your mindset are vanquished from this Earth, if not by yourself, by the god you so believe in.
JBlakeR (2011-02-24)
Has anyone read the Celestine Prophecy books? This is touched on in the 11th insight, the automation of production in society, allowing humans as a collective species to return to our roots as explorers and inventors. I know they are just fiction, but that's a funny little coincidence, now isn't it?vittupaa1980 (2011-02-27)
It`s time for revolution SHEEPS.apaethy (2011-02-27)
This movies is absolutely awsome for any one out there who is:A 15 year old boy currently reading the beatnics.
Libertarian.
Stupid and paranoid (or all of the above).
AussieAJD001 (2011-02-28)
A, V, M, all fine.Good first 1/3 or so, good last half hour. The rest was reasonably well covered in Zeitgeist: Addendum. But, if interested in an alternate, worth a look.
Enjoy Jacques Fresco, yet understand how and why he is denounced "utopian" - still, as I say, worth a look. Sometimes wonder why the Zeitgeist crew place so much faith in his vision. ]
I mean, I would love to be living in his world, but I honestly don't see it happening in my lifetime. :)
Peace.
AussieAJD001 (2011-02-28)
Oh, and the ending reminded me of V for Vendetta to the extent that I wondered why they chose to go down the idealist path. That the ignorant, oppressed masses will EVER galvanize to the extent that they pose a threat to TPTB still seems like a Hollywood pipe dream.But we live in hope.
Phatfish (2011-03-03)
@apaethy:I just love people who honestly believe the self made world we live in is legit.
Very fascinating.
pimpmobile (2011-03-04)
Great documentary goes to show you how brainwashed the american public is, so sad! Watch this people the revolution is here.TheMessage (2011-03-12)
LISTEN AND READ CAREFULLY EVERYTHING U KNOW IS A LIE LITERALLY U HAVE TO ILL SAY IT AGAIN YOU HAVE TO!!!! TEACH OTHERS AND EDUCATE URSELF DONT TURN A BLIND EYE TO IT BECAUSE WE ARE THE VICTIMS OF WHATS TO COME. FROM TODAY I AM DEDICATING MY TIME TO EDUCATE OTHERS JUST LIKE ALEX JONES(FOLLOW HIM) SO PLEASE FOLLOW ME. IF U WANT UR CHILDREN TO GROW UP FREE AND NOT CONTROLLED THIS IS THE ONLIY WAY. "HAARP" IS A WEATHER MODIFICATION TOOL EDUCATE YOURSELVES PLEASE!!!! IT IS TO LATE AS WE SPEAK BUT WE MUST TRY. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER IM TELLING YOU.I USED TO NOT BELIEVE THIS STUFF I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL GAS IM TELLIN YA IM A DOWN TO EARTH KID JUST LIKE YOU BUT WHEN THE TRUTH IS SO BAIT AND SO LIFE THREATENING YOU HAVE TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF
Milivoi11 (2011-03-15)
To all of u Idiots that hate God: it`s not about the Bible, it`s about your soul...Either u have it or not!!KrshBX (2011-03-19)
@orinvee: I know a lot of people have said a lot of things, but this whole line of discussion has me going so bad that I actually created an account after 4 years of using this site just to add my bit, and here it is.Everything that I'm about to say is based on evidence in your bible. I'm not making this shit up.
The god that you claim to worship is either ignorant or a liar. Evidence (paraphrased for shortness, but all of it is in there.): Yahweh told adam and eve that if they eat from "that tree", because if they do "On that day you will surely die." Guess what, they ate from the tree, and "Their eyes were opened and they were like God." Who told the truth? THE SERPENT! He said that they would not die, but instead would be like gods. And they were. (On a side note, since he made the tree, I have to assume that he knew full well that the tree would not kill them, which points towards the lying end of things.)
Your god is a baby killer. Evidence: he burned sodom and gomorrah with all of it's citizens. Now, according to the way that I interepreted what I read, these were fairly large cities. (Correct me if I'm wrong on that point.) Now, since they were large cities, there must have been citizens of all ages, including probably newborns that were born that week if not that day. They cannot possibly be so evil at that age to deserve being burned alive.
Your God is the cause of all strife in the world today. Evidence: According to your bible, at one point mankind was doing great things, and all working together.(Babylon) They were achieving great things. What did God do? He scattered them to all corners of the world and made them to speak in different tongues. Thus creating all the different races, and the strife that went along with it.
KrshBX (2011-03-19)
@orinvee: I know a lot of people have said a lot of things, but this whole line of discussion has me going so bad that I actually created an account after 4 years of using this site just to add my bit, and here it is.KrshBX (2011-03-19)
Comment continued: (Having some issues, as I said, never posted here before, so not used to the behavior of the posting system.)Your God is unjust. Evidence: God punished Adam and Eve (And subsequently the rest of mankind) because they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil. But they had no way to know that it was wrong to do so. Yes, god told them not to, but they had no way of knowing that disobedience was wrong, as they had not yet gained the knowledge of good and evil.
Your god is just plain mean. Evidence: The entire book of Job! Yes, it was the devil that did all the things to poor job, but all of it was with god's permission. And why did he do it? To win an argument with someone who betrayed him!
KrshBX (2011-03-19)
The long and short of it is like this: I believe everything in the bible. I do not believe that it is a full account of mankind, and so should not be taken as the final answer in everything. (The age of the earth for example. I have no idea where anyone got the idea that the bible indicates the age of the earth, but I never came across it.) Here's a fun fact for you: the first word used in the bible that is translated as god in all modern bibles is Elohim. Know what that means in Hebrew? GODS! Plural. Another one for you: Adam and Eve were not the first man and woman. (No, I'm not talking about the supposed lillith, I don't know where that comes from either.) But it says that Elohim created the earth, yada yada yada, and they created man and woman, they made them male and female. From just after that point, it starts referring to God in the singular form, and begins to relate the histories of a particular god, and his followers. You want some evidence to support this fact too? Okay, Caine and Abel went away for a while and came back with wives. Where did they find wives if there were no other people?
There are some points that I want to mention completely aside from your religion, but about things that you said specifically.
KrshBX (2011-03-19)
First is that we need more morality, not less. I agree wholeheartedly with that comment. However, there is a difference between morality and religion. The two are not one and the same. Part of morality comes from accepting people for who they are, and not trying to change them because they are not like you. People have free will, so suck it up. Implying that a gift from our creator(s) is the cause of our problems is as good as blaming him/them for our problems, which puts you in the same boat as the people who go on and on about religion being responsible for so much killing and wars. Man is responsible for his own actions, quit trying to shuffle the blame. (I know that I seem to be contradicting myself here, since I said earlier that God is the cause of all strife in the world, but the way I see it, God started it, but we all have to power to end it if we could get over those petty differences that God gave us.)About technology: Technology, from something as basic as carpentry to something as advanced as nuclear energy, is a double-edged sword. All of it can be used for good or ill. The same techniques that build a house can be used to build a gallows (or crucifix). The same technology that brings the power to our homes can be used to wipe out thousands of people in an instant. Before you talk about how horrible technology is, and how it only destroys, remember this: The most important piece of technology in mankind's history was the printing press. And the first thing it was used to make was a bible... So maybe you're right.
KrshBX (2011-03-19)
First is that we need more morality, not less. I agree wholeheartedly with that comment. However, there is a difference between morality and religion. The two are not one and the same. Part of morality comes from accepting people for who they are, and not trying to change them because they are not like you. People have free will, so suck it up. Implying that a gift from our creator(s) is the cause of our problems is as good as blaming him/them for our problems, which puts you in the same boat as the people who go on and on about religion being responsible for so much killing and wars. Man is responsible for his own actions, quit trying to shuffle the blame. (I know that I seem to be contradicting myself here, since I said earlier that God is the cause of all strife in the world, but the way I see it, God started it, but we all have to power to end it if we could get over those petty differences that God gave us.)About technology: Technology, from something as basic as carpentry to something as advanced as nuclear energy, is a double-edged sword. All of it can be used for good or ill. The same techniques that build a house can be used to build a gallows (or crucifix). The same technology that brings the power to our homes can be used to wipe out thousands of people in an instant. Before you talk about how horrible technology is, and how it only destroys, remember this: The most important piece of technology in mankind's history was the printing press. And the first thing it was used to make was a bible... So maybe you're right.
KrshBX (2011-03-19)
I think this "comment" has gone on long enough. Just everyone get off your high horse and get along. If anyone would like to discuss further, e-mail me at circle.guide@gmail.com as I don't intend to keep up on the comments here.KrshBX (2011-03-19)
Sorry for the jumbled posts people. Like I said new to the comments thing on here, and had to chop up my post because it was too long. Also, I should say something about the actual torrent: It's fantastic all around.coladuna (2011-03-19)
@KrshBXYour understanding of the Bible is so feeble it's not even funny. Without proper understanding of the Bible (which can only come with help from the Holy Spirit) you won't understand any of it as God intended. So please stop posting your non-sense and stop trying to comprehend God's intentions with your human logic.
KrshBX (2011-03-21)
@coladunaPlease feel free to enlighten me. Are these things not in the bible? Is there another way to interpret it? Doubtful. I have spoken to pastors of over twenty years, and they couldn't answer these. The fact of the matter is that they are there, and you can't deny them unless you start picking and choosing what you believe and what you don't from the Bible. As for God's intentions: I never claimed to know them. I only stated attributes based on observation and study.
Here's a fun little paradox:
If God made man in his image, and God is perfect, then man is perfect. If man claims that God does not exist, and since man is perfect (being made in God's image) he is infallible, and therefore must be right in his assertion that God does not exist, and therefore God does not exist. However if God does not exist then man is fallible, and therefore God may exist despite man's claim to the contrary. However if God did then exist, and is perfect... you see where this goes. Not a point in any way, I'm just a fan of coming up with creative paradoxes. :)
But in all seriousness, please explain where I am wrong, I would like to know.
ITSfun2bBROKEN (2011-04-18)
@KrshBXwhen the church says that man is made in the image of God it means Love... Corny yes but thats what the church is saying God is love and as such we are images of love... The whole idea that God is love comes from the fact that God wishes us to be happy, its intrinsic in our nature, to be part of the community, to feel, to be seen, it is all human nature that is being suppressed in this capitalist world...
Over a few decades the Roman Curia developed a teaching that basically explains this... dnt ask me how they arrived at it but hell thats groundbreaking... God is Love, we are perfect images of Love... then why the hell do we kill each other?
Because of greed and various other sins, we are temporal PHYSICAL beings of existance, once we die we move on to a different plane, we experience enlightenment on a different level beyond that of the scope of the human person...
we are bound by the limitations of the physical, the body that has 2/3 of its brain still in the ice ages, we desire all the sins as back in the day those sins actually promoted life and so became engrained in our brains constricting our growth as spiritual beings, as now these sins now repersent all that is "bad" in society when truly some sin is actually good for the person as long as it isn't in excess...
Basically it all boils down to the fact that we are physical and cannot see "God" as he really is and so we have "religions" that promote THEORIES on who and what God is... But since we cannot comprehend God as a whole in our states it can be seen that all religions are flawed inherently in their structures...
just use religion as a vehicle to help you in your search for God and find it on your own, don't rely on others they are all different with different motives, thoughts, etc...
And you cannot deny there is a god... every physicist will tell you there are patterns everywhere in the universe, patterns that shouldn't be there according to chaos theory or is it heat? anyway patterns everywhere where they shouldnt be working together perfectly, can you doubt there is a God with this evidence?
thx 4 reading my little ramble
HUGS!!!
... Hugs non-refundable...
3ljust (2011-04-19)
Thanks I Learned a lot!Also I like the posts above me that I read :D
DeathMinister (2011-04-30)
lol, I placed a bet of $20 that trolls would inhabit the comments for this torrent. Thank you trolls for making capitalism work for me.Erich505 (2011-05-02)
Do a little research on Peter Joseph and you'll see that he incurred a lot of debt in his lifetime and was not able to pay any of it back, and like many others, he blames America and it's institutions for his may failures. I hope after making this series of propaganda films, he was able to pay back all his creditors. These are strictly vendetta films.noldon (2011-05-04)
@Erich505Peter joseph is a psedonym so how could u even possibly find out the real person behind this name??
And even if u did and u find out that he do have had or has alot of debts then ill bet he know what he talks about by own experience.
Anyhow this is a good documentary and u dont have to belive it tough alot of what he saids sounds very logical but i do miss that he hasnt include any sources so people can go and look for themselfs.
Pimbax (2011-05-10)
Thanks ;-)MitziKatz (2011-06-01)
Thanx!I will only say that the Zeitgeistmovies, all 3 of them, are great! I´m convinced this guy is basically right about most of the issues!
For a broader and spiritual approach I recommend the site http://in5d.com where you will find lots of video with quite interesting approaches (some great, and bee aware, some totally crazy!)
diyosh (2011-06-06)
seriously?! you're arguing about it here?! of all places? wow. retards. just watch it and keep your shit to yourselves or your friends i don't give a fuck. pick a proper forum to vent your personal fucking opinions.srsly, a torrent site?? wow. retards.
jrallah (2011-07-03)
thxsocialoutcry69 (2011-07-08)
has anyone actually watched these movies? everyone in here bitchin about god and religion and its all been explained. Heres a couple questions your you god fearing bible bashers. If god is so great and loving then why are you god fearing? doesnt make sense. And why is it that the bible and god are considered facts but when you talk about ancient religions its "Mythology"? If you actually watched these movies you would see that all your stories and all the characters in your so called good book are all taken from previous religions. That makes it not only fiction but plagiarized fiction. I'm not sayin that there is no entity that guides us im just sayin its not god. the only people who had it right were the pagans who worshiped life love and nature, and they never went door to door trying to convert people or committed genocide because others didnt believe what they did. "Man made god, therefore Man IS god"Protektor35 (2011-07-17)
These Zeitgeist movies would be funny in how much actual history that they get wrong, if it weren't for the fact that they actually believe that is the real history. For example what they say about Egypt and Egyptian gods is completely 100% wrong and any professor will tell you that. In fact every single thing they list as a fact of history is completely wrong and a bit of research would have told them that. Research it yourself and try to find academic support for their facts. The one book they use for support and quote from has been blasted so hard by the mainstream academic world for having absolutely no supporting proof/evidence and for going against known, provable history. The book by Acharya S, "The Christ Conspiracy: The Greatest Story Ever Sold" has been blasted so hard by mainstream academia for terrible research, stilted work to a political end rather than pure research, and for listing supporting documents that don't exist. The mainstream academic world considers the book a fraud. The modern facts they quote as also have the exact same issues as well. I would find the whole thing a very funny joke if it weren't so sad. They clearly have no idea how to do research and so everything just falls apart. It just very very sad that people actually believe this garbage pseudo-science and the authors have deceived themselves into believing it too. It almost becomes criminal to me since they are trying to talk people out of their money to support them.Protektor35 (2011-07-17)
I should say it's sad how the author(s) deceived themselves with crap science. Unless they know it is all crap and are just scamming people, then they should be arrested for scamming people. The one guy used to be homeless until he conned a wealth philanthropist to fall for his crap and paid for his apartment and trips around the world. Hey if I could con people into paying me not to work and lay around all day and then jet off around the world, I would do it too. Not to mention he just keeps re-editing the movie and claiming it as this really long involved process of a new "edition" of the movie. It doesn't take that long to re-edit a movie. I have done student films and documentary movie editing. I would bet the reason this movie has never been submitted to mainstream academia is because they know it will get blasted for having so many facts thiat are just plain wrong. His conclusions on the monetary system tell me he has never studied macro economics and international finance. There are so many things he just gets plain wrong.ferauricchio (2011-07-25)
Thanks!sunman11 (2011-07-30)
Here is a great book people would be interested in would be the book,Basic Training For Revolutionaries. It was once in hard copy format and then it was banned. You can read more about it here.
http://www.subvertednation.net/lulu-bans-basic-training-for-revolutionaries/
MorphzreaZ (2011-08-04)
donwload this if u wanna hear/see some bullshitvinyc3 (2011-08-09)
Opinions aside the bible and it's contents is a story. It is. And its told by none other than man. You wouldn't even know about it unless others told you. Whether or not it's true is completely subjective and pointless to argue over. How can you be sure if it's real or not real. You cant. Either way it's a good 'story'.daimonwyzard616 (2011-08-13)
read some Kant. everything you see, feel, and think is merely a result of the perception set provided by our biological form. everything seen and heard only appear to exist to you- the subject- as a result of the underlying matter that composes you simply gravitating to a center. the goal of the universe and all matter in it is gravity, and perception is an accidental product after eons of evolution. DNA isn't magic lifeblood, its fucking acid, and just like any other virus (which are not living things because they can't die) it just interacts with the surrounding matter like vinegar and baking soda. the products of these interactions, however complex, are purely accidental. there is nothing sacred about being an accident. time and space do not exist as objective realities or subjective delusions. they are merely the only way the world can possibly be presented to a conscious being- in chronological non-overlapping order both spatially and temporally. all of you biblefuckers, bookstore buddhists, and athelitists need to stop fighting and realize there is nothing sacred about life, nobody is special, and we are all accidents. it'd be easier to exist if we just cooperateso shut the fuck up and seed already
daimonwyzard616 (2011-08-13)
@anyone who spells 2 as "to" and other such signs of little to no educationdon't post quick snappy comments about how the stuff said about the federal reserve is false just because you work for them. you're the kind of person that writes good reviews for shitty products and pyramid schemes like ambit energy because you think brand loyalty will get you even farther up your boss's ass. so if little red squigglies show up under the words as you type them, you better go inspect that shit or nobody with half a brain will take you seriously
seed please
-Gabe- (2011-10-10)
How can a movie that has been universially panned by critics, picked to pieces by serious scientists, a movie with doubtious facts, many wich are proven wrong or altered to fit with its theories have a score of 8,6 on Imdb?Really, this films factual accuracy is so bad it's more than a little painful.
I can understand why somebody could be decieved by the partial truth this movie ocationally offers, but come on people!
Well, I guess when people think they've discovered a lie, they turn into stubborn, ignorant fools. I just wish you could take off your conspiracy glasses for a second and see this movie for what it is, a movie covered in *beep*
tug_boat. (2011-10-29)
If you all actually did some research instead of arguing on the pirate bay, you would find out that there is a lot of merit to what this documentary has to say. Just because its tough to hear or you can't find sources within five seconds of googling doesn't mean it isn't real.Use your minds, people.
Anansi666 (2011-12-11)
@coladunaHere's a fun little paradox:
If God made man in his image, and God is perfect, then man is perfect. If man claims that God does not exist, and since man is perfect (being made in God's image) he is infallible, and therefore must be right in his assertion that God does not exist, and therefore God does not exist. However if God does not exist then man is fallible, and therefore God may exist despite man's claim to the contrary. However if God did then exist, and is perfect... you see where this goes. Not a point in any way, I'm just a fan of coming up with creative paradoxes. :)
But in all seriousness, please explain where I am wrong, I would like to know.
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Your Answer:
Man was created in Gods image according to His 4 main attributes: Justice, Power, Wisdom, and Love.
Man was CREATED perfect and was also given free will.
Adam did not have to be told "Do not kill", "Do not lie", because as a perfect creature Adam had no such inclinations.
Adam was told "Do not eat from this tree".
The tree was a symbol of Gods sovereignty, His authority over the human family.
I represented Gods right to tell Adam what was right and what was wrong, just like a good father does while raising a child.
When Adam CHOSE to disobey God and to obey to Satan he was in essence giving Satan the authority over him that was previously reserved only for God.
The moment that Adam disobeyed God, he became no longer perfect, so any children he had from that point on would also be imperfect (aka a sinner). That is why we grow old and die.
Since God is holy and clean, we can not communicate with him directly as long as we are in our current un-pure state. The human race as it stands, can do nothing, and offer nothing to God to make up for Adams sin because one perfect human is worth more than an infinite number of human sinners, just as one human sinner is worth more than all the cows and sheep in the world.
God's son Jesus sacrificed his perfect body in order the "cover over" Adams sin. In doing so, he also proved that his brother Adam, could have remained faithful and not given into temptation, and was not created defective.
Since Adam chose to obey Satan as his father, we live in a system where Satan rules as a god. Man is being given time to work out every possible religion and government to prove positively that "Man can not successfully rule over other men."
Soon, God, through His son Jesus, will destroy this wicked system along with the demons and restore the earth to a paradise. The battle to destroy this system is called "Armageddon".
I hope this helps!
Anansi666 (2011-12-11)
@coladunaHere's a fun little paradox:
If God made man in his image, and God is perfect, then man is perfect. If man claims that God does not exist, and since man is perfect (being made in God's image) he is infallible, and therefore must be right in his assertion that God does not exist, and therefore God does not exist. However if God does not exist then man is fallible, and therefore God may exist despite man's claim to the contrary. However if God did then exist, and is perfect... you see where this goes. Not a point in any way, I'm just a fan of coming up with creative paradoxes. :)
But in all seriousness, please explain where I am wrong, I would like to know.
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Please Note:
Nearly all of mans problems comes from two sources:
1. We inherited sin from Adam:
We have deformities, illnesses, diseases, sickness and death.
We make mistakes, car accidents etc. that lead to injury and death.
We show a lack of love for others that can lead to conflicts, assaults, rapes, and murders.
2. We live in a system ruled by Satan:
We COULD design a car that can survive a 60 MPH crash but it would cost too much.
We COULD have built that levee with concrete and steel instead of earth, but it would cost too much.
We COULD have built that building to withstand an earthquake but it would cost too much.
We COULD build steel frame houses that survive a tornado but that would cost too much.
We COULD have installed seismic monitors and an early warning system for that tsunami.
We COULD stop putting chemicals in our food and pollution our environment.
We COULD ship our extra grain to that starving country but who would pay for it?
We COULD decide to love our neighbors and trade with them, but instead we go to war.
Etc... Etc... Etc...
God doesn't cause our pain and suffering.
With Satans help, we do it to ourselves.
Nazher (2012-04-19)
Come on, get a life you guys O.oI'm talking to you guys who writes a freaking bible in the comments trying to prove/disprove whoever is right.
Why did people stop giving simple thanks to the uploader and maybe some A/V, this is just ridiculous...
/Nazher
sparx101 (2012-05-10)
The Bottom LineWhat this trilogy talks about is the same exact thing as the NWO, ruled by Lucifer. What could be the purpose of this framework? Well, simple enough, to console you all and make it look like some "bright future of mankind" so you accept the NWO and give an oath to serve Lucifer and Lucifer only, as all of you will be required to do according to information on record.
Remember this well: without your agreement, the NWO and a rule of Lucifer can not be established as it would be a violation of one of the most fundamental Laws of existence, which is Free Will. If this is done without your explicit agreement, the punishment to those who violated this Law would be more than they bargained for. This is the LAW! Under no conditions whatsoever it can be violated, and they know it really well, no matter what they tell you, deluding and zombifying you all and converting you into biorobots - functional biological machines.
This whole "paradise on earth without God" ideology is meant not to free you but to enslave you and in the most drastic and violent ways. If you agree to it, you will sign your own death sentence as it is planned to destroy at least nine tenths of the world population "to restore the balance with nature" and create that "paradise" for the "elite" of parasites to parasite on the fruits of labor of the rest of you - "slaves", in a LITERAL sense.
Conceptually, this framework does not make any sense even though some things seem to correspond to reality. Because someone has to rule it and make decision to allocate the resources, to initiate the projects and make all sorts of decisions. It can not just work by itself. Someone has to direct this grand show, and who would that be but not the same biggest and baddest bankers that change their dress to look like some "elite" while controlling the world just the same. What do you need money for if you OWN the whole world?
Can you even conceive of an idea of getting rid off the bankers and their deadly grip on the world? HOW? WHO has any power to force them to accept their own bankruptcy unless they are even bigger bankers? You mean the UN? Well, but the UN is their "back door to enslave the world", just as Harold Wallace Rosenthal states in his six hour long interview on record. It is them who created the UN in the first place.
If you can understand this and see it, there is no need to even read the rest of this critical review.
rbriguera (2012-10-17)
interesting.Tailingloop (2013-06-20)
this was an entirely different movie than the last one. great movieembodied_brain (2013-08-18)
Lol at people trying to "pirate" this film when you can just go to the website and download it there for free (in several formats).And lol at people who vaguely claim that this film is inaccurate. The truth hurts, maybe, if you're too indoctrinated to accept it.
mateusthunder (2014-05-28)
This doesn't work in my divx player. Bad rip!leprosok (2014-07-21)
Not a single avm, just a bunch of assholes who tinks that someone really care your fucking opinions. Just give the avm and shut the fuck up. IdiotsFiles:
1. Zeitgeist Moving Forward.avi 3043.20 Mb